And I was half expecting it to be in ALL-CAPS

Rakshit Verma

Coming to ur second problem,the information being sought from the person is basic information which is currently available with several government and private agencies. The information that is unique to UIDAI is the biometric information. In order to protect the right to privacy of the individual the information on the database will not be shared with anyone; all queries will get a ‘Yes’ or ‘No’ response. The UIDAI will also put in place regulations and protocols which have to be followed by the Central Identification Data Repository, Registrar and Enrolling agencies to protect the right to privacy.

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# Persons who gather UID related information from citizens, fills forms in local/regional language. I assume that on UID card it will be displayed in English and Hindi or English and Regional language. I wonder how would they spell information in English in exact way citizen wants, because many names can be spelled in different ways having different meanings.

# What if information being provided by citizen is misused before it is submitted to UID project? For example they ask name, address, dob, parents name, place of birth etc. which can be used for phishing of SIM card. So not all information should be collected by only 1 person.

I suggest that those officials who collect such important information should be given this ID cards first so that citizens know who is going to collect such important information. Moreover they can also be taught in such a way that they can show their/specimen cards to citizens and explain it’s benefits, otherwise I am sure that lot of people will refuse to provide their detailed information or if they do, they will give wrong information.

I am sure project people would have solution of this, but t

And, anyways, software is made in stages. Windows 95 never had those features which Windows XP provided. So, don’t loose your heart, UID 2.0 will have much better ideas but let UID 1.0 complete first.

Raise your head out of sand and you will see benefits of UID.

USA has similar system and it is being misused too. You can’t prevent it.

But for fear of misuse against 5 people, we can’t ignore benefits it will bring to other 1000 people.

The point here is, misuse will be far less compared to its benefits.

Soon, Western astronomers & scientists will unravel relation between Astrology and inter-planetary cosmic ray science & will start worshipping science behind Kundali.

Jai Hind.

Please research more before creating such sensationalist blogs of no value.

When Govt. gives details of future projects, one accuses of “leaks”! And, when they refuse to give details, one accuses of lack of transparency! We already have such sensational non-sense in our media. Lets not do it here.

I wasted my 5 minutes reading your post.

Raise your bum before reality kicks it hard. lol

Challenge is Mindset.

Elsewhere people have made a brouhaha of this project. This is no big shit. Come on !! Indians are capable and even illiterate farmers are capable. On the software and technology side our country has been able to solve many issues so no issues.

On logistics and operational challenges, this project is worth taking on those challenges. Besides we have been able to conduct the largest elections without such system smoothly so this is only 3 times the size of that project. No big deal.

Just relax and give full support. Better we improve our country than suffer like our neighbor on west.

Jai Hind

Thanks again

Rajeev

It was a very well prepared presentation. Thanks to you for offering us a chance to go through your presentation.

While I do not fully accept all your points, there cannot be any doubt a singularly identifying number along with associated data would help in maintaining comprehensive health and other related particulars of a person.

But then, we as citizens of this country, already have too many id cards; starting from the all powerful ration card, pan card, voter id card, driving license and so many others. The UID or the UID card, if a new card really comes in will be one more of this many. What does it add in value more than what is already existing in one or many of these? Why should there be an exercise of registration once more? In what way you can stop the duplicates in this card? Do you think fingerprint is foolproof for duplication?

Let us start with fingerprint. I have been working with personal identification systems for almost 25 years. I have introduced almost every kind of id in industries including ATM like machines. My software work with some of the banks in this country as well.

Fingerprints are not really comfortable to use. In the first place, most of the laborers do not have a proper fingerprint! People who work in the textile mills, people who work in foundries and many many other laborers do not have one. You will fail if you try to register their fingerprints. I have tried and failed. We have actually tried multiple fingers, palm prints. May be retina imagery might be fool proof. But can India afford that cost?

The immediate corollary of this statement is that there can be duplicates of UID for the same person. The UID is no more UID after that. One person can have more than one UID!

The brief for the UIDAI is not to issue cards. But only the numbers. Where and how these numbers will be used and what is the relationship to the PAN number? or are we supposed to have one more PAN card with the UID number or will the PAN number exist independently? The same questions are valid for every one of the other id cards that exist now; for passport, for ration card, for voter id and others as well. And there are tax ids like service tax numbers which are in turn dependent on pan numbers?

Now, will UID help in any of the below operations?
The rigged state elections, Without a really unique number the entire exercise will be a farce. How can there be uniqueness if the methodology taken is fingerprinting? If some one says it will be unique, it will be a joke. People who worked on it in real id projects will know it is not.

Widespread embezzlement that affects subsidies and poverty alleviation programs. I really do not know how an unique id will help in this. Because most of the embezzlement is in wrong delivery and UID is not maintaining UIDs with unique addresses or community (you may read it as caste) mapping. That is a far fetched exercise and is not in the immediate scope of the Authority.

Illegal immigration into India. Joke! Instead of picking up a ration card, the illegal immigrant will pick up a new UID. That is the only difference. The problem is in creating UIDs of all existing citizens completely. Only if this can be achieved, this objective will be realized. But that is not in the list of objectives. Taking UID is not a must even for the citizens of this country!

Terrorist threats. Will continue to exist. Only difference will be, you might find the terrorist also has an UID of India along with a Pakistani passport! And Pakistan will have one more excuse to say that he is not a Pakistani!

Sorry, Doctor, none of the objectives mentioned will be met by the UID.

True, there should be a unique number required to identify people in this country. But then, will UID be any different from the others that already exist. And in what way, will it add value? Absolutely none.

The ideal solution will be to take up one of the existing numbers and remove the lacunae in them one by one; making them more suitable for our Indian conditions. DO NOT copy a western method. It will not work here. Design something that is needed for the country.

My suggestion will be the PAN number. Most possibly, no terrorist will be a tax payer! Even if there is one, we still could pickup the PAN number as a unique number. Of course, it is not unique. There are duplicates across the country. Try and eliminate that. Find out the reasons behind the duplication and remove them.

Then, with the newly armed duplicate free PAN database or minimum duplicate PAN database, go for covering the rest of the country whether they pay tax or not.

Expand the pan number laterally and vertically, covering all adults and then all ages. Start registering at birth too! Your PAN number might become a PIN number too.

Bring the whole thing on electronic media and make change of address and other services over the net. Remove birth certificates being issued by local authorities and place it on the net. This should include community and death and all other personal certificates. The person or authority perusing the certificates have to cross check the same with the server before accepting the validity of the certificates.

If it is not done this way eliminating duplicates and making use of the existing number for the purpose, it will be a wasteful effort and a repeat of what happens with the ration card or voter id card.

Thank you for the patient reading and the opportunity you gave to express my thoughts.

Regards
Shan

Guys, This is sort of National Insurance Number which is there in U.K. Which does exactly the same but, with that number you’ll pay your tax there.

Government!! Is there any brainstorming idea?? Come on please..

Same rules apply in UK, but that number not even an identity.. Don’t know whats the real use of it.. I say no, cuz wts the necessity now..

May be useful for credit details{centralised databases of banks (Pan card does this anyway)}, voting(voters id does this anyway), License (Driving license does this anyway), ration details(ration card does this anyway), watelse??

With this UID if i could open an account in anybank without any single question, if I can vote, if i can get my passport, if I can get my license, if I can get my ration details, vagera vagera vagera yes..

Else come on save a quite good amount of money, try to use that money for developing other sectors.

Stop paying huge giants [Yahoo, Google or whoever] and start developing India..

Vishnu