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	<title>Comments on: Indian OTAs on Airline’s decision to launch their Agency (Rang7)</title>
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		<title>By: Nilesh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nilesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 05:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a timely post, Ashish. Great work :)

Somebody needs to interview the airline guys too now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a timely post, Ashish. Great work <img src='http://www.pluggd.in/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Somebody needs to interview the airline guys too now.</p>
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		<title>By: infrequent traveller</title>
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		<dc:creator>infrequent traveller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 16:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>since it is obvious that frequent traveller works for an existing OTA, I have a question for him - what does it take for one to appreciate that competition is bound to come up in an attractive (?) sector ?

second, not sure if hrush is reading these comments, but if he is - what business innovation is he claiming? cleartrip was late to market with a fancy frontend for innovation - makemytrip has caught up to a large extent and so has yatra. so where does that leave them?

I think Ixigo and rang7 have the best chance to compete in this market, if this business model is true afterall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>since it is obvious that frequent traveller works for an existing OTA, I have a question for him &#8211; what does it take for one to appreciate that competition is bound to come up in an attractive (?) sector ?</p>
<p>second, not sure if hrush is reading these comments, but if he is &#8211; what business innovation is he claiming? cleartrip was late to market with a fancy frontend for innovation &#8211; makemytrip has caught up to a large extent and so has yatra. so where does that leave them?</p>
<p>I think Ixigo and rang7 have the best chance to compete in this market, if this business model is true afterall.</p>
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		<title>By: Frequent Traveller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frequent Traveller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 06:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; The top 3 are NOT competing each other they are competing against the airlines. 

So now the airlines will create another OTA to compete with them ?

:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; The top 3 are NOT competing each other they are competing against the airlines. </p>
<p>So now the airlines will create another OTA to compete with them ?</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.pluggd.in/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ashish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ashish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 04:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vijay and Vikas
We asked these questions to other OTAs as well - out of which few declined any official comments,.
you need to realize that only few come out in open (I respect Hrush and Aloke for this) and we publish their replies.

No - I do not have any interest in ixigo or any other startup. Get this and focus on dsicussion - do not try to bring irrelevant topics to derail the discussion.

-Ashish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vijay and Vikas<br />
We asked these questions to other OTAs as well &#8211; out of which few declined any official comments,.<br />
you need to realize that only few come out in open (I respect Hrush and Aloke for this) and we publish their replies.</p>
<p>No &#8211; I do not have any interest in ixigo or any other startup. Get this and focus on dsicussion &#8211; do not try to bring irrelevant topics to derail the discussion.</p>
<p>-Ashish.</p>
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		<title>By: Spike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 21:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not 10 only 3... rest 7 don&#039;t matter. 

The top 3 are NOT competing each other they are competing against the airlines. 

Airlines think OTAs are eating the cake while the airline is running into losses (which in a way they are). An offline agent has to do a LOT, in terms of manual work and interfacing with the customer etc.

Now the airlines have there own OTA... this is going to be interesting :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not 10 only 3&#8230; rest 7 don&#8217;t matter. </p>
<p>The top 3 are NOT competing each other they are competing against the airlines. </p>
<p>Airlines think OTAs are eating the cake while the airline is running into losses (which in a way they are). An offline agent has to do a LOT, in terms of manual work and interfacing with the customer etc.</p>
<p>Now the airlines have there own OTA&#8230; this is going to be interesting <img src='http://www.pluggd.in/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Vijay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vijay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 20:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>100% true,I think Ashish of Pluggd.in has interest but he is not disclosing on why he is covering certain Startups often??
I thought Blog &amp; new media is all about transparency and level playing ?no?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>100% true,I think Ashish of Pluggd.in has interest but he is not disclosing on why he is covering certain Startups often??<br />
I thought Blog &amp; new media is all about transparency and level playing ?no?</p>
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		<title>By: Frequent Traveller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frequent Traveller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 15:27:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;FlyKingfisher.com only sells Kingfisher fights and not SpiceJet, so they require one common OTA site to sell all the tickets… 

Dont we already have 10 OTAs doing that ? 

&gt;Whole point of Rang7 is to sell fights and compete with MMT/Yatra. 

Best of luck ! 

&gt;Meta search won’t sell tickets they will direct traffic to OTA, Airline sites. But in India they have not really made an impact as in other markets (hinting Kayak).

too early to comment here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;FlyKingfisher.com only sells Kingfisher fights and not SpiceJet, so they require one common OTA site to sell all the tickets… </p>
<p>Dont we already have 10 OTAs doing that ? </p>
<p>&gt;Whole point of Rang7 is to sell fights and compete with MMT/Yatra. </p>
<p>Best of luck ! </p>
<p>&gt;Meta search won’t sell tickets they will direct traffic to OTA, Airline sites. But in India they have not really made an impact as in other markets (hinting Kayak).</p>
<p>too early to comment here.</p>
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		<title>By: Spike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 14:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; Spike - Since it is obvious you work for Rang7

No I don&#039;t work for but Rang7... in fact looking to find out who is working for them :)

&gt;Why do the airlines even need a Rang7 to sell cheaper tickets when the lowest price is already on their own website ?

FlyKingfisher.com only sells Kingfisher fights and not SpiceJet, so they require one common OTA site to sell all the tickets...

&gt;Will Rang7 ever price lower than the airline sites ?

I don&#039;t know

&gt;Why would someone choose Rang7 over MMT/Yatra - after all everyone claims to have best prices and give cashbacks.

Whole point of Rang7 is to sell fights and compete with MMT/Yatra.

&gt; won’t metasearch remain the most efficient distribution channel 

Meta search won&#039;t sell tickets they will direct traffic to OTA, Airline sites. But in India they have not really made an impact as in other markets (hinting Kayak).

&gt; the orbitz founders must have realized something to leave and start kayak or the ixigo founders to leave amadeus?

What are talking about here...?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; Spike &#8211; Since it is obvious you work for Rang7</p>
<p>No I don&#8217;t work for but Rang7&#8230; in fact looking to find out who is working for them <img src='http://www.pluggd.in/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&gt;Why do the airlines even need a Rang7 to sell cheaper tickets when the lowest price is already on their own website ?</p>
<p>FlyKingfisher.com only sells Kingfisher fights and not SpiceJet, so they require one common OTA site to sell all the tickets&#8230;</p>
<p>&gt;Will Rang7 ever price lower than the airline sites ?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know</p>
<p>&gt;Why would someone choose Rang7 over MMT/Yatra &#8211; after all everyone claims to have best prices and give cashbacks.</p>
<p>Whole point of Rang7 is to sell fights and compete with MMT/Yatra.</p>
<p>&gt; won’t metasearch remain the most efficient distribution channel </p>
<p>Meta search won&#8217;t sell tickets they will direct traffic to OTA, Airline sites. But in India they have not really made an impact as in other markets (hinting Kayak).</p>
<p>&gt; the orbitz founders must have realized something to leave and start kayak or the ixigo founders to leave amadeus?</p>
<p>What are talking about here&#8230;?</p>
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		<title>By: Frequent Traveller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frequent Traveller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 14:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spike - Since it is obvious you work for Rang7, here are some questions for you:

Why do the airlines even need a Rang7 to sell cheaper tickets when the lowest price is already on their own website ?
Will Rang7 ever price lower than the airline sites ? 
Why would someone choose Rang7 over MMT/Yatra - after all everyone claims to have best prices and give cashbacks.

If not, won&#039;t metasearch remain the most efficient distribution channel ? the orbitz founders must have realized something to leave and start kayak or the ixigo founders to leave amadeus?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spike &#8211; Since it is obvious you work for Rang7, here are some questions for you:</p>
<p>Why do the airlines even need a Rang7 to sell cheaper tickets when the lowest price is already on their own website ?<br />
Will Rang7 ever price lower than the airline sites ?<br />
Why would someone choose Rang7 over MMT/Yatra &#8211; after all everyone claims to have best prices and give cashbacks.</p>
<p>If not, won&#8217;t metasearch remain the most efficient distribution channel ? the orbitz founders must have realized something to leave and start kayak or the ixigo founders to leave amadeus?</p>
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		<title>By: Spike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 12:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well it is evident that all the OTAs (mmt, yatra, ct) and meta-search (ixigo, Mobissimo, kayak) are going to get some serious competition from Rang7...

1. Payment gateway cost is always there (OTA, Rang7 or airline site) so airline is not adding an additional cost... The guy could have booked it on Kingfisher or on Rang7 (PG cost is same).

PG cost is the single most factor -- which can break or make any OTA business model and Rang7 has an advantage here to get a good deal from Via / Master OR do something like irctc.co.in

2. The only *value* that OTA offered was the guy does NOT have to go to 9 airlines site to figure our what the best fare is...now the airlines are giving this feature as Rang7.com In short instead of showing SpiceJet result on FlyKingfisher.com they came up with new OTA...

Rang7 has an advantage over existing OTAs.

Rang7 advantage -
1. No markups - less price (they will always be cheaper or can afford to go cheaper).
2. Deals - So called cash backs and discount deals will for obvious go to Rang7, instead of any other OTA.
3. They can support rang7.com with &quot;free&quot; advertising - image rang7.com printed on boarding pass, on airline magazine, announcement made by the flight crew... or (worst for any OTA) the aircraft itself :)

The idea is good, execution still matters. Airlines are helping the customer by taking out &quot;the middle&quot; man...More airlines should move out of GDS and support a common OTA..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well it is evident that all the OTAs (mmt, yatra, ct) and meta-search (ixigo, Mobissimo, kayak) are going to get some serious competition from Rang7&#8230;</p>
<p>1. Payment gateway cost is always there (OTA, Rang7 or airline site) so airline is not adding an additional cost&#8230; The guy could have booked it on Kingfisher or on Rang7 (PG cost is same).</p>
<p>PG cost is the single most factor &#8212; which can break or make any OTA business model and Rang7 has an advantage here to get a good deal from Via / Master OR do something like irctc.co.in</p>
<p>2. The only *value* that OTA offered was the guy does NOT have to go to 9 airlines site to figure our what the best fare is&#8230;now the airlines are giving this feature as Rang7.com In short instead of showing SpiceJet result on FlyKingfisher.com they came up with new OTA&#8230;</p>
<p>Rang7 has an advantage over existing OTAs.</p>
<p>Rang7 advantage -<br />
1. No markups &#8211; less price (they will always be cheaper or can afford to go cheaper).<br />
2. Deals &#8211; So called cash backs and discount deals will for obvious go to Rang7, instead of any other OTA.<br />
3. They can support rang7.com with &#8220;free&#8221; advertising &#8211; image rang7.com printed on boarding pass, on airline magazine, announcement made by the flight crew&#8230; or (worst for any OTA) the aircraft itself <img src='http://www.pluggd.in/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>The idea is good, execution still matters. Airlines are helping the customer by taking out &#8220;the middle&#8221; man&#8230;More airlines should move out of GDS and support a common OTA..</p>
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		<title>By: vikas shah</title>
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		<dc:creator>vikas shah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 11:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pluggd.in gives coverage to IXIGO more than it is due.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pluggd.in gives coverage to IXIGO more than it is due.</p>
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		<title>By: Suman Babu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suman Babu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 11:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aloke - Did you even read the Eco Times article? It said airlines are NOT investing capital, but a VC is. So there is no need to keep saying &quot;hopefully airlines are not investing&quot;.

As a neutral observer (I own a design firm and have not worked with any travel company so far), I think a lot gets written about Airlines by people who know too little. Cleartrip is out telling the airlines what to do to turn the tide. If only all startups could focus on themselves, it would do the world a lot of good. 

But these startups afterall have done a good deed - redistribution of wealth - from the VC to the founders/employees. Until the VC stops doling out funds, that is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aloke &#8211; Did you even read the Eco Times article? It said airlines are NOT investing capital, but a VC is. So there is no need to keep saying &#8220;hopefully airlines are not investing&#8221;.</p>
<p>As a neutral observer (I own a design firm and have not worked with any travel company so far), I think a lot gets written about Airlines by people who know too little. Cleartrip is out telling the airlines what to do to turn the tide. If only all startups could focus on themselves, it would do the world a lot of good. </p>
<p>But these startups afterall have done a good deed &#8211; redistribution of wealth &#8211; from the VC to the founders/employees. Until the VC stops doling out funds, that is.</p>
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