Comments on: Satyam Clients (but not employees) can approach us

By: Ashish

Ashish — Tue, 13 Jan 2009 12:20:39 +0000

@Mahesh T, your basic assumption of talent as a commodity is not 100% correct.
Well, you need mediocre resources for mediocre jobs – but that doesn’t mean that one shouldn’t respect (just because demand-supply eqn isnt on their side, at this point) resources.
definition of talent varies from each inidividual – but there are some minimal definition that we all have agreed upon. I urge Infy and others to just follow that.

By: Mahesh T

Mahesh T — Tue, 13 Jan 2009 11:53:01 +0000

@arnav,

Hunters thought Farming is big deal
Farmers thought Factory is big deal
Workers thought Computer is big deal
Programmers will think AI is big deal
and it goes on…..

Does it matter if I have a white collar job when there are a million other ppl who can also do the same job? For some reason, we rely too much on demand-supply economics. “Respect for Talent” is a phrase that gets reserved for a very few people and “Dignity of Labor” for the rest….

-Mahesh
Celebrating Life…

By: arnav

arnav — Tue, 13 Jan 2009 10:27:18 +0000

@Mahesh T,
“Any thoughts or pointers to how knowledge economy behaves differently from industrial economy? ” – dude, you need to understand the diff btn knowledge workers (white vs. blue collar jobs).

What makes you think that we are also doing the same things? We have moved away from Y2K days

By: Mahesh T

Mahesh T — Tue, 13 Jan 2009 09:43:39 +0000

@Ashish,

Its not about we believing if the same characteristics exist. That is what we see for real. NO?

There were floor-workers, technicians, engineers, designers, contractors, management, share holders. Each segment was treated differently. Well, There is a similar pecking order in IT too right? The same pyramid structure manifests with different labels to each layer.

Any thoughts or pointers to how knowledge economy behaves differently from industrial economy? Because…We cannot do the same things and expect different results.

-Mahesh
Celebrating Life…

By: Mohan Srinivasan

Mohan Srinivasan — Tue, 13 Jan 2009 09:33:40 +0000

The situation is in a terrible mess. The time is not right for knee jerk reactions from all concerned-competition, clients,employees. The government has taken the right first step. Lets give them time to analyse the situation. Those who want to take advantage of the situation-No one can really stop them but that will show their true colours-Won’ t it. My suggestion would be to sit tight for a month-give all responsible peole to play their part and than evaluate what needs to be done….

By: Ashish

Ashish — Tue, 13 Jan 2009 07:59:24 +0000

@Mahesh T – No, unless and until you would like to believe that we have the same characteristics.
Havent heard of knowledge workers?

By: Mahesh T

Mahesh T — Tue, 13 Jan 2009 07:30:38 +0000

“Respect Talent – that’s what grows an industry”

Wishing for a new kind of capitalism to emerge in 21st century? Because the capitalism as we know it did not think that way. Lets wind a few years back and see how floor-workers were perceived at factories in post-Industrial revolution.

- Talent was as a commodity
- Processes took care of variations in Talent
- Machines got sophisticated and efficient
- Individual workers were replaceable entities
- The reqd. Talent could be trained with ease.

As much as we like to think IT services is different, it has the same characteristics. NO?

-Mahesh
Celebrating Life…

By: Sumeet

Sumeet — Tue, 13 Jan 2009 05:47:26 +0000

I agree, I am an ex employee and have learnt and shaped my career at satyam…the company is great…
I have decided to provide all help to the employees to take their views and BELIEF in brand satyam to the world and WIN over their customers by expressing their collective.

http://www.kreeo.com/forum/satyam
http://www.kreeo.com/concept/satyam

Contribute your stories and views to extend a hand of help rather than just exchanging opinions.
Appreciate the good someone is trying to do by bringing out facts, they are not baseless, anyone with little bit common sense can understand the reality.

I spoke to my friends in satyam and they say their customers are very supportive and are equally confident that it will prevail because an organization is about its people and over 80% satyamites have a strong belief in their company’s fundamentals and their collective capability.

By: arnav

arnav — Tue, 13 Jan 2009 03:16:19 +0000

@Anoop, dude – there is just a thin line diff. btn hiring and poaching..
hike or no hike is dependent on employees talent.

Regd. the chill pill, – stand up for something in life. Take some stand – I appreciate that this blog is bringing that. I see lot of ex-satyamites and current employees talkng abt satyam – somebody needs to do this (instead of sitting up on their a**es/and commenting like an industry pundit)

By: Anoop

Anoop — Tue, 13 Jan 2009 02:28:36 +0000

There is a diff between hireing and poaching. Infy said they wont poach employees and not necessarly hire if some one applied in Infy. Dont u think Infy or for that matter any comp can hire satyam emp at present situation with no hike in salary??

Ashish have a chill pill