Comments on: Grabbon – Power of Collective Bargain http://www.pluggd.in/grabbon-power-of-collective-bargain-297/ We Heart Startups! Fri, 10 Feb 2012 14:53:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: sarika http://www.pluggd.in/grabbon-power-of-collective-bargain-297/comment-page-1/#comment-149831 sarika Tue, 10 Aug 2010 08:21:32 +0000 http://www.pluggd.in/?p=6568#comment-149831 Many people may start with the same idea, but some execute better than others. And execution is not just the initial one. Eventually consumers evolve and companies that evolve with changing consumer needs emerge winners. Being the first one or a clone becomes quite meaningless then. Cheers! http://www.wooqer.com Many people may start with the same idea, but some execute better than others. And execution is not just the initial one. Eventually consumers evolve and companies that evolve with changing consumer needs emerge winners. Being the first one or a clone becomes quite meaningless then. Cheers!

http://www.wooqer.com

]]> By: ealif http://www.pluggd.in/grabbon-power-of-collective-bargain-297/comment-page-1/#comment-122674 ealif Mon, 08 Mar 2010 16:48:11 +0000 http://www.pluggd.in/?p=6568#comment-122674 I hope they will get good market share, as compitition already started Good luck guys ! I hope they will get good market share, as compitition already started Good luck guys !

]]> By: vagsmith http://www.pluggd.in/grabbon-power-of-collective-bargain-297/comment-page-1/#comment-122321 vagsmith Wed, 03 Mar 2010 09:22:15 +0000 http://www.pluggd.in/?p=6568#comment-122321 Please compare the terms and conditions and privacy policy of grabbon and groupon. I will call these attempts to do a word-for-word rip-off pretty 'amateurish' Please compare the terms and conditions and privacy policy of grabbon and groupon.

I will call these attempts to do a word-for-word rip-off pretty ‘amateurish’

]]> By: abhishek http://www.pluggd.in/grabbon-power-of-collective-bargain-297/comment-page-1/#comment-118683 abhishek Mon, 01 Feb 2010 17:38:44 +0000 http://www.pluggd.in/?p=6568#comment-118683 surely Naman, just gave my two cents on this whole journalistic cry over inspired models - hardly handful of established internet models in India - and all of them were heavily borrowed from west - be in naukri.com or ebay(bazee). by execution didnt mean design - meant getting the vendors, procing to them the marketing power of the platform, getting enough userbase to make this sustainable, managing large sales team across the country optimially....anyways let it be :-) surely Naman, just gave my two cents on this whole journalistic cry over inspired models – hardly handful of established internet models in India – and all of them were heavily borrowed from west – be in naukri.com or ebay(bazee). by execution didnt mean design – meant getting the vendors, procing to them the marketing power of the platform, getting enough userbase to make this sustainable, managing large sales team across the country optimially….anyways let it be :-)

]]> By: naman http://www.pluggd.in/grabbon-power-of-collective-bargain-297/comment-page-1/#comment-118525 naman Sat, 30 Jan 2010 19:25:08 +0000 http://www.pluggd.in/?p=6568#comment-118525 I agree mostly! You are right on "its not about Idea but execution". Site design and copy is a execution thing not a idea thing. And that is copied/inspired. And of course our wishes and all possible encouragements is there for you. And this review and the "not so welcomed" feedback is also part of it. Isn't that the way it should be? Peace :) I agree mostly!

You are right on “its not about Idea but execution”. Site design and copy is a execution thing not a idea thing. And that is copied/inspired.

And of course our wishes and all possible encouragements is there for you. And this review and the “not so welcomed” feedback is also part of it. Isn’t that the way it should be?
Peace :)

]]> By: abhishek http://www.pluggd.in/grabbon-power-of-collective-bargain-297/comment-page-1/#comment-118464 abhishek Fri, 29 Jan 2010 20:13:16 +0000 http://www.pluggd.in/?p=6568#comment-118464 Hi Naman, its not one deal a day in this case can vary depending on the deal terms - woot was a pinoneer that doesnt mean any1 attempting anything on those lines doesnt get credibility. I frankly find it ammatuerish to write off copycats - id call them "inspired" - i agree about customisations to local consumer behavior wherever required - but not for the sake of it - if something isnt broken why fix it, why re-invent the wheel just to prove a point and salvage credibility from certain "startup reviewers" - coz trust me business is about execution not about ideas - it doesnt matter if you borrowed from som1 else - that's fine as long as it creates value for customers and stakeholders. Agreed its a challenge getting users to regularly know of each deal is a toughie - but thats where alliances and tools like creating widget based publisher network can help keep getting old and new customer back regularly - also dont forget the email alerts - consumers would end up opening them and atleast checking out the deal even if they buy once in six months - its not about sales but about the visibility the vendor thus gets by listing himself on such a platform...thats the key of this model pizza hut/macd all customised but not overnight - they started by replicating their US counterparts and slowly kept customising based on feedbacks and observation...so dont jump to conclusions right away - encourage startups and give them the benefit of doubt perhaps :-) Hi Naman, its not one deal a day in this case can vary depending on the deal terms – woot was a pinoneer that doesnt mean any1 attempting anything on those lines doesnt get credibility.

I frankly find it ammatuerish to write off copycats – id call them “inspired” – i agree about customisations to local consumer behavior wherever required – but not for the sake of it – if something isnt broken why fix it, why re-invent the wheel just to prove a point and salvage credibility from certain “startup reviewers” – coz trust me business is about execution not about ideas – it doesnt matter if you borrowed from som1 else – that’s fine as long as it creates value for customers and stakeholders.

Agreed its a challenge getting users to regularly know of each deal is a toughie – but thats where alliances and tools like creating widget based publisher network can help keep getting old and new customer back regularly – also dont forget the email alerts – consumers would end up opening them and atleast checking out the deal even if they buy once in six months – its not about sales but about the visibility the vendor thus gets by listing himself on such a platform…thats the key of this model

pizza hut/macd all customised but not overnight – they started by replicating their US counterparts and slowly kept customising based on feedbacks and observation…so dont jump to conclusions right away – encourage startups and give them the benefit of doubt perhaps :-)

]]> By: naman http://www.pluggd.in/grabbon-power-of-collective-bargain-297/comment-page-1/#comment-118463 naman Fri, 29 Jan 2010 19:51:58 +0000 http://www.pluggd.in/?p=6568#comment-118463 I do understand the viral marketing part of it. The WoM that would be generated for the business is far more valuable than the immediate sales generated. I dont call this idea bad but the attempt here is half baked without thinking through how the first set of users would really come to know of each offer. You cannot expect him to check the website daily. And also the Indian public is still to understand the idea of mCoupons and value it. When you copy or get inspired of a US model do it with some Indian customization. Do NOT copy paste. McD had to customize. PizzaHut customized. Even SMSgupshup customized twitter to an Indian format. The reason why i mentioned local search is that to make the word spread over the social media we would need a reasonable base of seeder's. People who would come to know of the offers first and then spread it across their network. Local search is where one would land up regularly and is contextual. So if the offer is promoted there it would find more connectors. There is lesser chance that i would subscribe to the facebook/twitter stream of a service that i would use may be ones in six months. So how would i really come to know of the daily deals? Woot is mentioned for the "one deal one day" concept that was brought to web by them. I do understand the viral marketing part of it. The WoM that would be generated for the business is far more valuable than the immediate sales generated. I dont call this idea bad but the attempt here is half baked without thinking through how the first set of users would really come to know of each offer. You cannot expect him to check the website daily. And also the Indian public is still to understand the idea of mCoupons and value it. When you copy or get inspired of a US model do it with some Indian customization. Do NOT copy paste. McD had to customize. PizzaHut customized. Even SMSgupshup customized twitter to an Indian format.

The reason why i mentioned local search is that to make the word spread over the social media we would need a reasonable base of seeder’s. People who would come to know of the offers first and then spread it across their network. Local search is where one would land up regularly and is contextual. So if the offer is promoted there it would find more connectors.

There is lesser chance that i would subscribe to the facebook/twitter stream of a service that i would use may be ones in six months. So how would i really come to know of the daily deals?

Woot is mentioned for the “one deal one day” concept that was brought to web by them.

]]> By: abhishek http://www.pluggd.in/grabbon-power-of-collective-bargain-297/comment-page-1/#comment-118462 abhishek Fri, 29 Jan 2010 19:15:24 +0000 http://www.pluggd.in/?p=6568#comment-118462 Naman, will give you the benefit of doubt as clearly you havent thought through the model and its long term potential before writting off a decent attempt abruptly and coldly - the model isnt about discounts - its also about creating a unique marketing platform for SME service retail brands across the city(and country). its not about selling the coupons but the viral marketing users do to get these coupons is what the vendor is intrested it (or else the actual sale is a loss for them). so if 10 pple buy it, 10,000 read about it and spread it to another 10,000 - its the network effect a local search offering coupons - nah thats a completely different model and wont lead to any "marketing" effect neither is this a woot concept - woot is a sales platform for products, this would be a marketing platform for retail services IMHO for a layman we expect statements like above but not from plugged.in ! Naman, will give you the benefit of doubt as clearly you havent thought through the model and its long term potential before writting off a decent attempt abruptly and coldly – the model isnt about discounts – its also about creating a unique marketing platform for SME service retail brands across the city(and country). its not about selling the coupons but the viral marketing users do to get these coupons is what the vendor is intrested it (or else the actual sale is a loss for them). so if 10 pple buy it, 10,000 read about it and spread it to another 10,000 – its the network effect

a local search offering coupons – nah thats a completely different model and wont lead to any “marketing” effect

neither is this a woot concept – woot is a sales platform for products, this would be a marketing platform for retail services

IMHO for a layman we expect statements like above but not from plugged.in !

]]> By: Raghvendra http://www.pluggd.in/grabbon-power-of-collective-bargain-297/comment-page-1/#comment-118447 Raghvendra Fri, 29 Jan 2010 12:29:59 +0000 http://www.pluggd.in/?p=6568#comment-118447 I'd love to see netizens doing "aakraman" on retail outlets like they do in China. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuangou :-) I’d love to see netizens doing “aakraman” on retail outlets
like they do in China.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuangou
:-)

]]> By: hitesh http://www.pluggd.in/grabbon-power-of-collective-bargain-297/comment-page-1/#comment-118433 hitesh Fri, 29 Jan 2010 09:20:48 +0000 http://www.pluggd.in/?p=6568#comment-118433 There are few more clones of Groupon - www.koovs.com & www.bindaasbargain.com Grabbon seems to have good backing, they are marketing through FM channels. Hitesh www.vcbytes.com There are few more clones of Groupon – http://www.koovs.com & http://www.bindaasbargain.com

Grabbon seems to have good backing, they are marketing through FM channels.

Hitesh
http://www.vcbytes.com

]]> By: naman http://www.pluggd.in/grabbon-power-of-collective-bargain-297/comment-page-1/#comment-118432 naman Fri, 29 Jan 2010 09:18:31 +0000 http://www.pluggd.in/?p=6568#comment-118432 Very valid point Abhishek. Social media can help but i am yet to see any social media virality in India. The pink chaddi campaign did work but mostly because it was taken up by the main stream media. An action oriented India specific viral has not yet been witnessed. In this case we would require a city specific viral. Which again is difficult. Very valid point Abhishek. Social media can help but i am yet to see any social media virality in India. The pink chaddi campaign did work but mostly because it was taken up by the main stream media. An action oriented India specific viral has not yet been witnessed. In this case we would require a city specific viral. Which again is difficult.

]]> By: Abhishek J http://www.pluggd.in/grabbon-power-of-collective-bargain-297/comment-page-1/#comment-118429 Abhishek J Fri, 29 Jan 2010 09:08:51 +0000 http://www.pluggd.in/?p=6568#comment-118429 Its a little too much to say plain discount sites will not work in India there is obvious scope in this field. The trick is to see why groupon works which is because it can acquire large number of users through social media at no cost to itself and not through spending on google. Since social media is the only thing that works in indian internet if you have a good sales team which can crack deals in at least top 8 cities and you get a good viral traction there is a potentially decent market here in group discounting Its a little too much to say plain discount sites will not work in India there is obvious scope in this field. The trick is to see why groupon works which is because it can acquire large number of users through social media at no cost to itself and not through spending on google. Since social media is the only thing that works in indian internet if you have a good sales team which can crack deals in at least top 8 cities and you get a good viral traction there is a potentially decent market here in group discounting

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