Comments on: Mahatma Gandhi – His Relevance in the world of Web 2.0 applications http://www.pluggd.in/gandhi/gandhi-his-relevance-in-world-of-webhtml-203/ We Heart Startups! Fri, 10 Feb 2012 14:53:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Ashish http://www.pluggd.in/gandhi/gandhi-his-relevance-in-world-of-webhtml-203/comment-page-1/#comment-80368 Ashish Fri, 02 May 2008 11:52:26 +0000 http://www.pluggd.in/2007/10/gandhi-his-relevance-in-world-of-webhtml#comment-80368 Hi- My point to everyone reading this !. Gandhiji brought us freedom, we all know. but looking at loosly coupled many variants like Swatantra Senanni,their constant struggle,the years i.e. more than century of British rule..... and many more other issues. British must have left india.....what say ??. and not just gandhiji. sorry for dragging to this irrelevent topic, just put my thought forward as topic appeared. Thanks Ashish A Hi-

My point to everyone reading this !.

Gandhiji brought us freedom, we all know.

but looking at loosly coupled many variants like Swatantra Senanni,their

constant struggle,the years i.e. more than century of British rule…..

and many more other issues.

British must have left india…..what say ??. and not just gandhiji.

sorry for dragging to this irrelevent topic, just put my thought forward as

topic appeared.

Thanks
Ashish A

]]> By: pushkar http://www.pluggd.in/gandhi/gandhi-his-relevance-in-world-of-webhtml-203/comment-page-1/#comment-13265 pushkar Wed, 10 Oct 2007 03:42:25 +0000 http://www.pluggd.in/2007/10/gandhi-his-relevance-in-world-of-webhtml#comment-13265 Ashish I am sorry to inform you that Gandhi is not a software or antivirus who removed british virus from the India PC. If this the analogy that you are making then you are going toward the machanical view of the human system and socity. Softwares cant give you the freedom that you enjoy today... just respect the freedom that you get today... Thnx Ashish
I am sorry to inform you that Gandhi is not a software or antivirus who removed british virus from the India PC. If this the analogy that you are making then you are going toward the machanical view of the human system and socity. Softwares cant give you the freedom that you enjoy today… just respect the freedom that you get today…
Thnx

]]> By: Moksh Juneja http://www.pluggd.in/gandhi/gandhi-his-relevance-in-world-of-webhtml-203/comment-page-1/#comment-12140 Moksh Juneja Wed, 03 Oct 2007 07:12:13 +0000 http://www.pluggd.in/2007/10/gandhi-his-relevance-in-world-of-webhtml#comment-12140 The comparison is gaining a lot of discussion on your blog.. that is cool!! Next you could probably draw up a similarities between Web 2.0 and Kibbutz - the most successful community of all times. The comparison is gaining a lot of discussion on your blog.. that is cool!! Next you could probably draw up a similarities between Web 2.0 and Kibbutz – the most successful community of all times.

]]> By: Ashish http://www.pluggd.in/gandhi/gandhi-his-relevance-in-world-of-webhtml-203/comment-page-1/#comment-12060 Ashish Tue, 02 Oct 2007 18:19:42 +0000 http://www.pluggd.in/2007/10/gandhi-his-relevance-in-world-of-webhtml#comment-12060 Hey Venkat Thanks for the comment..Let me clarify: when I said web2.0, I didnt mean the technology per se, but instead the community (and sharing) aspect of web2.0. Now look at Flickr: It;s lock-in lies in the power of community, the amount of things u learn from it..Flickr gave away a rich picture interface (and for free) and the APIs as well.. Similarly - when I said ahimsa, look at how Zoho apps is using Google gears (a competitor's product) and Google helping Zoho building their offline component! The idea is it's no more a I-win-U-loose game, everybody is trying to expand the pie by collaborating with each other... Again, adsense kicked the hell out of everybody because anybody can implement that (without hunting for advertisers!). To me, that's reaching "bottom of pyramid" zone where you build a platform which benefits everybody (even a poor publisher like me!:) Hey Venkat
Thanks for the comment..Let me clarify: when I said web2.0, I didnt mean the technology per se, but instead the community (and sharing) aspect of web2.0.
Now look at Flickr: It;s lock-in lies in the power of community, the amount of things u learn from it..Flickr gave away a rich picture interface (and for free) and the APIs as well..

Similarly – when I said ahimsa, look at how Zoho apps is using Google gears (a competitor’s product) and Google helping Zoho building their offline component! The idea is it’s no more a I-win-U-loose game, everybody is trying to expand the pie by collaborating with each other…

Again, adsense kicked the hell out of everybody because anybody can implement that (without hunting for advertisers!). To me, that’s reaching “bottom of pyramid” zone where you build a platform which benefits everybody (even a poor publisher like me!:)

]]> By: Venkat http://www.pluggd.in/gandhi/gandhi-his-relevance-in-world-of-webhtml-203/comment-page-1/#comment-12059 Venkat Tue, 02 Oct 2007 18:07:55 +0000 http://www.pluggd.in/2007/10/gandhi-his-relevance-in-world-of-webhtml#comment-12059 Ashish, Don't get me wrong. I do like your articles, especially when you wrote a review on Chak De. But this time, I felt its a bad idea and I'd stick to it. 1) To me and many more in this world, Gandhiji is all about Vision, Idealogy, principles. Whatever you wrote about Gandhiji is fine. No issues with that. 2) I don't have problem with Web 2.0 stuff either. It's just that they are not driven by ideals and principles similar to Gandhiji's , the way you drew analogy. In web 1.0 era, we had free email, IM etc. In Web 2.0 world, we have more free collaboration tools like social networks, blogs, photo sharing, video sharing etc. May be 3 years from now we might call Web 3.0 where you design your own car and based on community voting you might get it built for free. :-) All these are evolving business models but not driven by Gandhian principles. The only ones in the Software industry where I can (arguably)draw similar analogy is FLOSS community (Richard Stallman, Mark Shuttleworth etc). Now, Infosys is not a Web 2.0 company. Its built to last and NRN is a visionary and no Web 2.0 Enterpreneur either. I thought you were comparing Gandhiji and Web 2.0 apps. To me, Web 2.0 is just a technology which will be leveraged by businesses (old and new alike) as part of their IT strategy. All the companies like Youtube, Flickr,digg etc are just technology incubators which are leveraged not just by Yahoo,Google but Dell, Infosys,Vanguard(my company) etc. That's why Web 2.0 apps are cloned so easily. That's why Web 2.0 startups are not built to last. I just thought Gandhiji has no relevance here. His personal attributes are always an inspiration to every individual, but Web 2.0 apps, I cannot buy that. These are my thoughts.Let me know what you think. Ashish,
Don’t get me wrong. I do like your articles, especially when you wrote a review on Chak De. But this time, I felt its a bad idea and I’d stick to it.

1) To me and many more in this world, Gandhiji is all about Vision, Idealogy, principles. Whatever you wrote about Gandhiji is fine. No issues with that.
2) I don’t have problem with Web 2.0 stuff either. It’s just that they are not driven by ideals and principles similar to Gandhiji’s , the way you drew analogy.
In web 1.0 era, we had free email, IM etc. In Web 2.0 world, we have more free collaboration tools like social networks, blogs, photo sharing, video sharing etc. May be 3 years from now we might call Web 3.0 where you design your own car and based on community voting you might get it built for free. :-)

All these are evolving business models but not driven by Gandhian principles. The only ones in the Software industry where I can (arguably)draw similar analogy is FLOSS community (Richard Stallman, Mark Shuttleworth etc).

Now, Infosys is not a Web 2.0 company. Its built to last and NRN is a visionary and no Web 2.0 Enterpreneur either.

I thought you were comparing Gandhiji and Web 2.0 apps.

To me, Web 2.0 is just a technology which will be leveraged by businesses (old and new alike) as part of their IT strategy. All the companies like Youtube, Flickr,digg etc are just technology incubators which are leveraged not just by Yahoo,Google but Dell, Infosys,Vanguard(my company) etc. That’s why Web 2.0 apps are cloned so easily. That’s why Web 2.0 startups are not built to last.

I just thought Gandhiji has no relevance here. His personal attributes are always an inspiration to every individual, but Web 2.0 apps, I cannot buy that.

These are my thoughts.Let me know what you think.

]]> By: Ashish http://www.pluggd.in/gandhi/gandhi-his-relevance-in-world-of-webhtml-203/comment-page-1/#comment-12045 Ashish Tue, 02 Oct 2007 14:53:08 +0000 http://www.pluggd.in/2007/10/gandhi-his-relevance-in-world-of-webhtml#comment-12045 Venkat It doesnt matter whether one does a social good or not. And Gandhiji, as far as I understand was never against making money! a. Infosys is generating employment - aren't they doing social good? WHat makes you think that living like a pauper and giving away evrything is a social good? b. Its easy to clone any web2.0 - there are 1000s of Digg / Flickr clones available. How many of them are successful? How may Facebook clones are doing well? c. It takes balls of steel to build built to last cos. I agree there arent too many..but that doesnt mean there won't be any. Again, I dont care whether somebody is making money while giving away a platform for people to explore their creativity (e.g. youtube/Flickr etc..).. Would love to know your comments. Venkat
It doesnt matter whether one does a social good or not. And Gandhiji, as far as I understand was never against making money!
a. Infosys is generating employment – aren’t they doing social good?
WHat makes you think that living like a pauper and giving away evrything is a social good?

b. Its easy to clone any web2.0 – there are 1000s of Digg / Flickr clones available. How many of them are successful?
How may Facebook clones are doing well?

c. It takes balls of steel to build built to last cos. I agree there arent too many..but that doesnt mean there won’t be any.

Again, I dont care whether somebody is making money while giving away a platform for people to explore their creativity (e.g. youtube/Flickr etc..)..

Would love to know your comments.

]]> By: Venkat http://www.pluggd.in/gandhi/gandhi-his-relevance-in-world-of-webhtml-203/comment-page-1/#comment-12042 Venkat Tue, 02 Oct 2007 14:26:38 +0000 http://www.pluggd.in/2007/10/gandhi-his-relevance-in-world-of-webhtml#comment-12042 Ashish, I think you are obsessed with Web 2.0 and getting carried way. Comparing Gandhiji and web 2.0 is pretty bad idea. To start with, Enterpreneurs who start for-profit companies (could be Web 2.0 startup or something else) aren't doing any social good. You have to understand that when the barrier to entry is so low, chances of gaining sustainable competitive advantage and longevity are equally low as well(Seriously how long does it take create Web 2.0 clones?), forget about built-to-last companies. These so called enterpreneurs, VCs and Web 2.0 companies are just after making quick money. Please do not bring them into Context while talking about Gandhiji. Ashish,
I think you are obsessed with Web 2.0 and getting carried way. Comparing Gandhiji and web 2.0 is pretty bad idea.
To start with, Enterpreneurs who start for-profit companies (could be Web 2.0 startup or something else) aren’t doing any social good.
You have to understand that when the barrier to entry is so low, chances of gaining sustainable competitive advantage and longevity are equally low as well(Seriously how long does it take create Web 2.0 clones?), forget about built-to-last companies.

These so called enterpreneurs, VCs and Web 2.0 companies are just after making quick money. Please do not bring them into Context while talking about Gandhiji.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.pluggd.in/gandhi/gandhi-his-relevance-in-world-of-webhtml-203/comment-page-1/#comment-51 Anonymous Thu, 05 Oct 2006 20:27:00 +0000 http://www.pluggd.in/2007/10/gandhi-his-relevance-in-world-of-webhtml#comment-51 Interesting analogy! Very well written! Interesting analogy! Very well written!

]]> By: RNS http://www.pluggd.in/gandhi/gandhi-his-relevance-in-world-of-webhtml-203/comment-page-1/#comment-50 RNS Wed, 04 Oct 2006 15:42:00 +0000 http://www.pluggd.in/2007/10/gandhi-his-relevance-in-world-of-webhtml#comment-50 Good thoughts. Like your writing style! Good thoughts. Like your writing style!

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